As a classic rock fan who dabbles in writing about politics from time to time, I saw this story of Mick Jagger saying that when he passes away he is considering donating the Rolling Stones catalogue to charity on social media and a friend of mine was very curious to know what I thought about it. As we all know, the news can work a bit like the game telephone where the truth gets distorted because of people misinterpreting quotes or taking things out of context, so letās take a closer look at this story.
The Story
The news stories are focusing on a quote about his fortune from an interview he did with the Wall Street Journal to promote The Rolling Stonesā upcoming album. On October 20, The Rolling Stones are releasing a new album called Hackney Diamonds, the bandās first studio album of original material in 18 years. It is also their first album released after the death of Charlie Watts, who died in 2021 (he contributed to some tracks on Hackney Diamonds, but most of the drumming was done by Steve Jordan). There are some guest contributions from Elton John, Lady Gaga, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, and bassist Bill Wyman. Their last studio album with original songs was A Bigger Bang, released in 2005. Their 2016 studio album, Blue and Lonesome, was an album of covers of blues songs by musicians who influenced them like Buddy Johnson, Howlinā Wolf, Little Walter, Magic Sam, Eddie Taylor, and Willie Dixon.
Mick Jagger was talking about the business and money side of music and with him being 80 years old and more and more boomer rock stars dying every year, whatās going to happen with the money and the catalogue was a question asked in the interview. Unfortunately The Wall Street Journal hides their articles behind a paywall so itās impossible for me to find out without forking out money. How elitist of them, practices like this just lead to more fake news and misinformation because people canāt see the articles for themselves and come to their own conclusions, unless they have the disposable income to pay for a subscription, which is hard to come by these days. Shows that these news organisations only really care about profit, not truth.
Anyway, Mick Jagger merely suggests that he may donate part of his fortune to charity because his kids donāt need $500 million to live on and that donating to charity does some good in the world. An important thing to note is that Mick Jagger only has the rights to The Rolling Stonesā catalogue from 1971 onwards. Anything from the 60s, he doesnāt have because The Rolling Stones ended their partnership with Allen Klein. Also in the interview he talks about the possibilities of AI technology keeping the bandās music alive even long after the band members pass away. ABBA havenāt played a concert in decades, but last year a two year virtual concert residency called ABBA Voyage began in London and is set to run until November 2024. Holograms of Agnetha, Bjorn, Benny, and Anni-Frid in 1979 āappearā on stage while a live band backs them. Not my thing – Iām not gonna spend money to hear what are essentially the vocals from a live album with a backing band with some fancy visuals. Not worth it to me. Iād rather see new bands and when you see smaller acts in smaller venues youāre closer to the band, you might have a chance of meeting them (it’s happened to me before!), the show feels more personal, itās great to support local artists and businesses, and itās way cheaper too. Some live gigs are cheaper than a movie ticket, so I donāt understand how someone has no problem dropping money to see Barbenheimer (IMAX aināt cheap!), but baulks at spending less money seeing a local band.
Anyway, thereās a lot to unpack with this Mick Jagger situation. I have a lot of thoughts so where do I begin? I guess Iāll break it down into three different sections: one talking about copyright, another talking about rich people and taxes, and another talking about my issues with charity.
Copyright
A lot of musicians these days are selling the rights to their catalogues for hundreds of millions of dollars. The catalogues are usually bought by corporations or incredibly rich people. Art is only one side of music, thereās also business and I donāt know much about the business side of things because it bores me.
As a writer, I totally understand the need for copyright. I wouldnāt want someone to steal my hard work and then take credit for it and make money off it while I get nothing. People need an incentive to create and innovate, thatās reality. Like it or not, money is the motivator under the current system and it probably would be the same case under socialism. People deserve to make a living from their work and copyright is important. But at some point, if someoneās made millions off their work, isnāt that enough? Does someone need hundreds of millions or billions of dollars? I donāt think so. If a creator has children, it makes sense for them to be taken care of, sure. But when artists are making hundreds of millions or billions off their work that means that not only they and their children are set for life, but so would their grandchildren and great-grandchildren and so on. Generational wealth! Should they get to profit off their ancestorās work when they had nothing to do with it? They werenāt even alive when those songs were written. They werenāt the ones who created it! The offspring of The Beatles and Rolling Stones had just as much a part in writing and composing that music as you or I do, none! This debate isnāt just a question for socialists, but also a question for capitalists. Socialism is supposed to be collectivistic. Why should a few make boatloads of money, while the many barely have enough to survive off of? Capitalism is supposed to be individualistic. Why do you get to profit off someone elseās work just because you descend from them?
Thanks to corporations like Disney, and I mean thanks in the most sarcastic way, copyright law has been reformed to favour the wealthy and things go into the public domain way later, if at all. Disney always seems to have the rules bent in their favour (because they give money to politicians) and Mickey Mouse the character is still copyrighted, even though Steamboat Willie should go public domain any day now. In the United States, copyrighted works go into the public domain either 95 years after publication or 70 years after the authorās death, which in my opinion is a bit too long. I think it should be 25 years after the authorās death at most! Ideally, works should go into the public domain 50 years after publication, regardless if the creator is dead or alive. Fifty years is more than enough time to make your money off a song, poem, book, movie, play, painting, whatever creative work you can think of. You wanna keep making money, create something new. Donāt rest on your laurels. Hey capitalists, thereās nothing capitalist about resting on your laurels.
As a person who writes about classic rock and is soon to release a book, the issue of copyright and song lyrics is especially noteworthy to me, because one of the rules in book publishing is you canāt quote anything that isnāt in the public domain without permission, even if it would otherwise be fair use like if you were to do a YouTube video and you quote some song lyrics. I have some academia background and one big difference is because academic work isnāt for profit for you the academic anyway, you have more leeway in quoting copyrighted materials. Meanwhile with books, thereās profit, well if youāre lucky anyway. For a small independent writer like me, this really is still at the passion project level for me and it looks bad for a big time rock star to sue the little guy who loves their work for merely quoting one bloody line from a song, itās not like the bookās gonna cannibalise sales of it! More like the opposite, if anything. Very shortsighted way of thinking to sue people for quoting your work. Reminds me of how video game companies would sue people in the early days of YouTube for doing letās plays of their video games, which are free advertising! Theoretically, permission should be easy enough to get, but most of the time it isnāt and this chilling effect on creativity hurts smaller creators who donāt have the clout of a famous name or the might of a big company. Unfortunately, the law doesnāt care about your feelings.
If youāre a music fan, you know that covers can be done in an inspired and creative way and sometimes can be even better than the original or bring something new and fresh to the table. There’s art in remixes, fanfics, fan art, and fancams too (just watch Neil Cicieregaās āBustinā, itās hilarious and so well done) and itās a shame that copyright law creates a chilling effect on creativity. It needs to be reformed, but as long as corporations run the government, it’s not gonna happen.
Public domain isnāt just a socialist thing, itās also a capitalist thing. Reforming copyright laws is something we can all agree on whether weāre economically to the left or the right. Like it or not, everyone borrows from something that came before them. Nothing is truly original in this world. By borrowing from the past we can innovate by building upon what came before us, improving it and making something old fresh again. Disney does it all the time and they abuse it! Makes me wonder how innovative capitalism really is. How many public domain stories does Disney make film adaptations of and then they claim that the source material is theirs, just because they made the most popular adaptation of it?
Thereās a balance. People deserve to make money off their work, but how much money? An authorās children/family should be taken care of and thatās why I donāt think that copyright should expire upon death. Sometimes an author dies young and leaves behind children and a spouse/partner, and they should be taken care of. But why should the grandchildren and great-grandchildren get to profit? Isnāt that taking the piss? If you have a family member who works at a factory, you donāt continue to receive their paycheque after they die. Why should creative work be any different?
Capitalism
Rich or poor, everyone hates taxes. Some say itās straight up theft, while others say itās a necessary evil. My opinion is somewhere in the middle. I think that taxation is theft if it doesnāt go back to the people. Under the current system in my birth country of the United States, I think taxation is absolutely theft because the military budget is way too high and the United States still doesnāt have universal healthcare and still doesnāt have tuition free university for all citizens and permanent residents. Education and healthcare are necessities and I think itās the governmentās job to guarantee a basic minimum for all citizens and I think education, healthcare, housing, transport, and utilities are things that every person needs. If itās something that people need in order to live, the government should subsidise it and it should either be free at point of use or extremely cheap.
If youāre rich, itās in your interest to pay as little tax as possible, which is why rich people will start charitable foundations, move to another country to pay less tax, and avail of any tax loopholes. Thatās why youāll see a lot of British rock stars claim residency in other countries so they donāt have to pay as much tax. The Rolling Stones famously became tax exiles in France and named one of their albums after the fact they did this – Exile on Main St. In the classic rock fandom thereās a meme about Mick Jagger being a Tory. And with takes like āMargaret Thatcher isnāt so bad, I donāt see why everyone hates herā (Iām paraphrasing) and a biography called Backstage Pass VIP portraying him as a ācloset toryā, thereās definitely truth to that theory. At the very least, Mick Jagger is out of touch. I donāt look up to classic rockers politically for the most part. Theyāre pretty much either one flavour of establishment or another. At the end of the day the Democrats are just the Republicans with a rainbow coat of paint on them. I like how Malcolm X put it:
āThe white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox.ā
If you want it in song format, Phil Ochs said it well in āLove Me, Iām a Liberalā.
Why Charity Sucks
There were a couple things that completely opened my eyes to the evils of charity and the first, thatās relatively easy to get into as itās a video, is a clip of Slavoj Zizekās talk on cultural capitalism, and the other is an essay that Zizek quotes in that clip: The Soul of Man Under Socialism by Oscar Wilde. I donāt usually read about socialism but the latter was just so well written, I was left shook, like my brain chemistry was altered. āThe worst slave owners were those who were kind to their slaves and so prevented the horror of the system being realisedā quote reminded me so much of MLKās āwhite moderateā quote from Letter From a Birmingham Jail:
āI must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.ā
These quotes were crucial in shaping the way I think about politics and the world. Sometimes you see something so well said that it really makes you think and thatās what these quotes did for me. Going back to The Soul of Man Under Socialism, I saw this great line about charity:
āIt is immoral to use private property in order to alleviate the horrible evils that result from the institution of private property. It is both immoral and unfair.ā
I loved this line so much that I made a Simpsons meme of it that I post whenever I see people cheering on rich people and acting like theyāre such amazing people for donating peanuts to charity.

Thereās another great quote from Friedrich Engels that has the same sentiment and I think applies even more to Mick Jagger saying that heās thinking of donating most of his net worth to charity:
āThe English bourgeoisie is charitable out of self-interest; it gives nothing outright, but regards its gifts as a business matter, makes a bargain with the poor, saying: “If I spend this much upon benevolent institutions, I thereby purchase the right not to be troubled any further, and you are bound thereby to stay in your dusky holes and not to irritate my tender nerves by exposing your misery. You shall despair as before, but you shall despair unseen, this I require, this I purchase with my subscription of twenty pounds for the infirmary!”
Rather than the rich donating their wealth to charity, Iād rather see them pay their fair share of taxes to begin with which means government programmes are properly funded and charity wouldnāt be necessary. If the rich paid their fair share of taxes in the first place, weād actually have enough money for a universal healthcare system and tuition free university for all, and that helps way more people than charity. I canāt remember where I heard this, but every charity is a policy failure. People shouldnāt have to depend on charity to get the necessities like healthcare and housing. The problem with charity is that they can pick and choose who is worthy and often thereās discrimination like the Salvation Army and their history of discrimination against the LGBT community. At least when the government helps people, itās a bit more egalitarian – could still be better, but Iād rather improve the government than put hope into a charity. And donāt get me started on nonprofit CEOs taking money for themselves and barely any of the money going to actually helping people.
The rich making a show of being charitable like ālook at me, look how good of a person I amā gives me the ick. If youāre going to be altruistic it should come from the kindness of your heart, not so you can get karma brownie points, applause, and give yourself self-congratulatory pats on the back.
On YouTube thereās been this big trend of rich guys making a show out of giving money to the less fortunate, in other words, poverty porn, and the leader in that genre is MrBeast. If you dare criticise MrBeast, get ready for his army of zoomer fans who will call you jealous and accuse you of not wanting to help the poor. There was a video where he paid for 1,000 people to get a surgery that would restore their vision and itās great that 1,000 people were helped, donāt get me wrong, but this isnāt something that should be necessary to begin with and it makes me sick that he makes content that makes him look like some sort of hero. This surgery should have been paid for by the government through universal healthcare. The US needs universal healthcare, stat. Healthcare shouldnāt be a lottery. People shouldnāt have to go on a game show or a reality show to get necessary medical care. This is not a radical idea. This isnāt pie in the sky. People should just be able to get the care they need without begging for a wealthy benefactor to help them out. If rich people paid their fair share of taxes from the start and politics wasnāt beholden to corporate interests, then maybe weād have a system that works for the many, and not the few. People could actually live in dignity. Thatās what I want. Thereās a great video that critiques MrBeast and his brand of cultural capitalism and I highly recommend you watch it, fan or not.
I have more respect, I suppose, for rich people who are unabashed about their wealth than those who pretend theyāre such good people and so generous for donating a few bob to charity.
I am not applauding Mick Jagger for saying heās gonna donate money to charity when he goes. His kids are set for life anyway (and I highly doubt heās gonna leave them nothing), if youāre the child of an A-list rock star, to say you get a leg up in life is a massive understatement, itās more like an elevator. A wealthy rock star has connections. Iām sure youāve heard of the whole discourse on nepo babies (thereās a whole meme in indie music about never asking an indie musician why their parentsā names are blue on Wikipedia). Mick Jagger has a few of those! His eldest daughter Karis is a producer in the film industry. His daughters Jade, Elizabeth, and Georgia are models. His sons work as journalists, actors, and influencers. They certainly got a leg up in the industry because of their lineage. I doubt that they would have gotten the same opportunities if they were just born to average, ordinary parents.
As we all know, Hollywood is not a meritocracy and itās crystal clear because look at the star system and the heaps of nepotism babies. Hollywood is incestuous – whereās the new blood? Thereās no surprise that thereās so much nepotism in Hollywood because thereās no originality anymore. Itās not about what you know, but who you know and who your family are. It breaks my heart thinking about all the incredibly talented actors and singers who will never make it because they werenāt born into the ārightā family, ergo they didnāt have the right connections. Sure not all nepo babies become successful, but connections at least get their foot in the door and that puts them ahead of the bulk of actors and models who are just fighting to get an audition, just to get the chance of playing a small part in a TV show or to walk the catwalk or do catalogue work.
Former child star Alyson Stoner is doing a whole series on their experiences as an actor called Dear Hollywood, describing the child star experience as the ātoddler to trainwreck pipelineā. If youāre a late millennial or early gen z who watched Disney Channel in the early 2000s, youāll definitely recognise them and can think of a movie or show youāve watched with them in it. I love how frank, open, honest, and eloquently they talk about their experience. It gets heavy at times, but the podcast is one of the most raw, real looks at Hollywood. One of the more recent episodes talks about auditions and the psychological impact of them and Alyson talks about the realities of casting in Hollywood (go to 6:50 in the video if you want to see them talking about how casting works). Often screenwriters and directors have actors in mind for the lead roles (the āoffer onlyā list) and they tend to work with the same people every time and these are actors you definitely know and are well-established. Seriously though, just pick a director and go to their IMDB page and look at the cast list and see how many of the same actors show up over and over again. Like Wes Anderson and Owen Wilson, Jason Schwartzman, Bill Murray, and Tilda Swinton. Why cast a rando you have no idea what theyāre like? You go with the tried and true people you have a rapport and friendship with. Same idea as you have the hair stylist you like going to because they do your haircut or hair colour exactly as you like it. Not just any hairdresser will do! Anyway, if those actors canāt make it to that movie, they move onto their backup plan of āthe shortlistā who are famous actors, and if that fails then you have the auditions. Most actors donāt even get to the audition stage. Itās not all that different from applying for jobs, except I guess thereās more nepotism and acting is a looks based industry. There is still nepotism in ordinary jobs though. Ugh, weāre never escaping that, but thatās human nature for you, youāre gonna favour your friends and family, whether itās your blood family or chosen family.
Donating to charity is a tax write off anyway. If you inherit a lot of money, you have to pay hella taxes on it so it makes sense why rich people donate part of their estate to charity. Itās not out of the kindness of their heart. Their kids still get more than enough to live off of anyway. Donāt worry about them.
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While enjoying your passion and willingness to dive into these murky waters, there was much that was confused and confusing here, I’m afraid. For example, “If you have a family member who works at a factory, you donāt continue to receive their paycheque after they die.” This is a false comparison. The correct one would be if you OWN the factory. And if you do, will you give it away as you age, or bequeath it to your children? “I’m sorry MoonMod Jr, you must make your own way in the world, irrespective of your talents and needs”. Hm.
I also wonder how you see the connection between copyright and intellectual property. How is it fair that something you sweat and labour to produce stops being your property after a period of years? Who decides the duration your life’s work is your own?
I do, however, agree wholeheartedly with you on the desperate need for a fair taxation system to slow the corruption and decline of the capitalist state. I rather like an idea I came across some years back (I’ve forgotten whose) which basically said, “When you become a billionaire you should get a small park named after you with a plaque saying ‘I won Capitalism’, after which you are taxed at 95%”. Or something along those lines.
The charity section is interesting. Many British rock stars, sporting identities and film people seem to take up charity work in mid-life as a pathway to knighthoods and other anachronistic elitist nonsense. Sir Mick Jagger. Really? Then why not Sir Keith Richards, for services to the pharmaceutical industry?
Anyway, well done on extracting some thought responses from at least one reader! Keep on writing and thinking and read James Baldwin.
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Well I write while fuelled by coffee lol so I can be a bit chaotic. Thank you for the thoughtful comment! I’ll clarify and expand on things a bit. Ideally, I’d love for companies to be collectives and cooperatives where the employees own a share and they have say in the company. If we take a music example, I’d love to see cooperative and collective record labels owned by the musicians themselves. As for how long copyright lasts, it’s a interesting debate. All I can say for sure is the status quo is way too long. I think art is human history and at some point it’s gotta go public domain. Human history is all our history. With generational wealth, it’s wild to me. I doubt these mega rich rock stars descendants will be struggling for money. They’re sorted. A lot of those rich families from the colonial era are still extremely rich to this day or all those royal families from before various European countries became republics, they’re still extremely rich now. Personally, I’m childfree, so I can’t answer what would happen to the stuff I own or create – haven’t thought about it since I’m not even 30 yet. Once I’m gone, I’m gone. Best to make the most of life while I’m here.
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That last sentence is probably the best advice anyone could receive! Good on you, Angie. I think you’d make a better leader/change agent than most of the current batch (and I do mean anywhere!).
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Thank you so much!
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I grew up with Disney Channel and it’s very sad knowing what these actors went through. The most obvious example being Demi Lovato. Their mental health was severely damaged because of her experience as a child actor.
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